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Once anyone asks anything about SideWiki the Google-haters come out to play, so I as much told the guy that he wasn't going to find any rational help here. TheRichJerksNet responds right away "It is evil simply put .. Anyone that decides to use it for marketing purposes are no better than the evil minds that created it ... James"

Then another basher says this "Yeah and spamming people's email is also a marketing technique used by people/companies. I don't see many posts/wso's/etc...Suggesting you harvest email addresses and spam people, but this is a marketing forum. Gee, wonder why that is?"

They keep coming up with arguments that have no validity whatsoever to them like email spammers. yet when I challenged all of them to come up with ANY SPAM from SideWiki, absolutely nothing came of it except TheRichJerks who actually posts a negative SideWiki himself to show how bad it was!!!

This charming fella says he is blackballing me or anyone that uses SideWiki. Too bad, cause I was sooooo looking forward to being a RichJerk.

This Warrior says SideWiki promotes pornography and child pornography. Excuse me? Please show a single example of this.

Originally Posted by Marty S View Post
For those of you not into casting black magic spells of doom on Warriors with a different opinion, and do realize SideWiki is here to stay - I have used it in a number of ways such as:

1- Making sure to have your Website Owner's message posted so that it shows up first.

2- Adding supplementary comments like updates, related videos, or recent posts that pertain to the topic discussed on the page.

3- Using your testimonials for SideWiki content. If people are using SideWiki to get more information about your offer (page), then this is a PERFECT place to post the testimonials from your current customers for anyone to see.

4- You can also use SideWiki when you find an article thief who has not given you credit for your writing. Post a message and link in SideWiki to your original and tell readers there is more and better content there.

5- Use SideWiki to add to your review blog. If you find a great service or product on the web, it takes just 2 minutes to post a positive SideWiki note about it and have it also posted on your WP or Blogger blog.

6- Make sure to have several Blogger blogs set up, because for every SideWiki you enter, you can have it posted on your Blogger blog (or WP too). When I do this the SideWiki entry gets picked up by Google within the hour!

This wretched character says I am encouraging SPAM by using SideWiki, even though I posted 7 positive uses for it to build traffic and links back to your web pages.

Paul Myers then chirps in and claims that if you disagree with me, I will say you are irrational > but of course he is implying that on any topic, not just the foolish statements in this SideWiki thread. So I respond saying:

Contrarily Paul, I would love a rational debate that does not include child pornography, blackballing, evil minds, email SPAM, etc etc...

Disagreeing in this forum is absolutely how any forum should function. I run a forum as well and encourage it. It's the basis for discovery and learning, but not for insults, ridicule and unsubstantiated accusations.

I also challenge anyone to show me where I have suggested using SideWiki as SPAM here:
Quote:
Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post
But go ahead ... you got Marty on your side. He's all for SideWiki spamming as seen in the previous threads.

Marty says > Please direct me as to where I have encouraged this and I will happily correct any of your misconceptions.

This guy still denies SideWiki is even social media! This is the same person selling manufactured backlinks in the WSO.

Sounds like a broken record.. Nobody would care if it was deleted as I only see one person promoting the evil tool and that is you {look at the sig}..s

Marty > Of course the reality is quite different, but that's never mattered to you. I have always, right from the beg acknowledged its presence and and potential on the WWW and realized its probably better to protect and engage your sites with SideWiki before someone else gets there before you.

Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post
Apparently not. For example, you have not responded to my suggestion about how to remove the ethical issue entirely. Simple solution. Quite rational, I think.

Paul
Again Paul, whether we agree with it or not, it's there. And Google has found a way around that ethical point you make (which I agree has validity), by letting SideWiki users read and post SideWiki comments on their own browser interface, not your website.

There are technical arguments with that too, but nobody has proven it unethical, and Google isn't the first or last company do such a thing. It's simply a waste of time IMHO to be arguing about it, I will let all of you do that. I am just trying to use it in ways that can help my websites and content. This however, emanates from my point of view of engaging consumers, and not blocking free and unrestricted comments.

The web is turning into a social media hub and if you can't handle a little SideWiki action now, your problems are only going to compounded as social media and social media APPs like SideWiki will become the major source of information on the internet.

I will finish this with a quote I lifted from Twitter in regards to the Warrior forum's stance on SideWiki > "If you can't handle a negative SideWiki comment, you got some weak-ass marketing.